The Future on Nintendo's Home Consoles. ...

You know... I have been closely watching the Wii and how It has evolved over this year, and as the first on It's six years of existence ( as Nintendo expects it to last ) goes by... I notice that nintendo has indeed accomplished what It wanted, people that never tought about gaming are indeed gaming... but the next generation, the 8th generation of gaming, will be much, much harder to take on... for all systems, but in my opinion, specially the big N's, why? well... tough they have the casual gamers, they don't give the same income in software as hardcore gamers do, now.. in the next gen, we can hope at least, that graphics wont be a problem (Not as big in this one, where it has become one of the big problems for the Wii being accepted), as every system with to-the-date technollogy will be far over today's best computers ( better than Crysis anyone? ), the appeal to gamers will be the inmersion... My problem? will Nintendo keep It's casual and massive aproach to gaming, go for an all out hardcore experience, or will they make a mix, and a system that will (try to) take on every aspect of home console gaming? (I know that every system tries to do the third, but... experience proves that systems allways go for one approach more than the other... at least in this gen) You be the judge. Oppinions anyone?sorry for any misspelling, I'm not from an english-speaking country. The Future on Nintendo's Home Consoles. ...
[QUOTE=''luke159''] You know... I have been closely watching the Wii and how It has evolved over this year, and as the first on It's six years of existence ( as Nintendo expects it to last ) goes by... I notice that nintendo has indeed accomplished what It wanted, people that never tought about gaming are indeed gaming... but the next generation, the 8th generation of gaming, will be much, much harder to take on... for all systems, but in my opinion, specially the big N's, why? well... tough they have the casual gamers, they don't give the same income in software as hardcore gamers do, now.. in the next gen, we can hope at least, that graphics wont be a problem (Not as big in this one, where it has become one of the big problems for the Wii being accepted), as every system with to-the-date technollogy will be far over today's best computers ( better than Crysis anyone? ), the appeal to gamers will be the inmersion... My problem? will Nintendo keep It's casual and massive aproach to gaming, go for an all out hardcore experience, or will they make a mix, and a system that will (try to) take on every aspect of home console gaming? (I know that every system tries to do the third, but... experience proves that systems allways go for one approach more than the other... at least in this gen) You be the judge. Oppinions anyone?sorry for any misspelling, I'm not from an english-speaking country.[/QUOTE] this looks like something i wrote like, 2-3 days ago... We got the same idea going... :) The Future on Nintendo's Home Consoles. ...
Err...I thought that about 90% of their software incomes came from casual gamers ?..
From my own and a lot of gamer friend's experiences, they're losing a bunch of us avid gamers cuz of their game selection and graphics that are way behind the xbox and playstations. The games are just way to simple minded and kiddy we're finding.
Looking at the Wii as a ''traditional'' home entertainment system...I'd agree. Thats the thing though, the Wii is primarily about the new controls and the traditional nintendo games that have been a staple in gaming for years. Personally, I don't think nintendo is all that worried about coming out with graphics that allow you to see the sweat dripping off mario's head, or to build a system that can handle a near perfect driving physics engine for mario kart... thats the thing about nintendo, its about tradition, what works, and extending within these boundaries. Look at all the kart games, the mario games, zeldas, metroids....all these relate to the roots. They know they're not ultra realistic. The Wii is an outlet for Nintendo to keep pushing these games but also to create a new experience when playing them. I mean textures, bump mapping, hd graphics, all great and fine, but that doesn't really transfer to a successful nintendo game. Look at the cube for an example. They focused on creating a game system to compete graphically with the other systems and it didnt turn out all that well. I think we'll see the next nintendo system far sooner than a PS4 or a new XBOX. This post of yours might also belong in system wars (always gotta be careful about talking about other systems).
Little know fact apparently: There is MORE revenue to be made from casual gaming than hardcore. Sorry people but casual gaming is just a much larger market.
[QUOTE=''l8bitz'']Little know fact apparently: There is MORE revenue to be made from casual gaming than hardcore. Sorry people but casual gaming is just a much larger market.[/QUOTE]lol you mean 7 year olds don't want to play games with puzzles, bank heists, cold-blooded assassins, and pixelated strippers? And some parents actually don't get these games for their kids? Man, what is this world coming to...
If the next console does add a word like Game Boy did for its sequel console i recommend holophonic sound learning a few design techniques fron the best Wii design hoax ever the Nintendo ON. A headphone set that can be used as the experience, vocal interaction adding word recognition including the long stretched voice chat, and motion-detection from the head for further movement it would make a fantastic camera control. Now that would be total immersive gaming, adding the fact it will be actually a step above even ps3 in graphics and in storage space would give us plenty options.
There's been too many topics about the next gen imo, it's too far away and we should just enjoy this gen as it is and talk about issues closer to when it comes along.But on topic, I think that over time the casual gamers will slowly turn into hardcore gamers. Smaller children for example, who have started playing games with the Wii, will grow up as a big Nintendo fan like alot of us. It might end up being an on-going cycle which would make Nintendo even more superior in the long run.
you and your friends are wrong ... the wii is succeeding,, with games like driver paralel lines manhunt 2 medal of honor red steel metroid 3 super mario galaxy mariokart zelda tp .. that completely dismisses all the kiddyness you expect us to belibe wii is ,, its only a year old and let me list all t-m rated softwarezelda tp -T metroid prime 3- Tred steel - T or is it Mfar cry-Mmanhunt 2 - M
call of duty 3= T medal of honor vanguard - T medal of honor heroes 2- T resident evil 4 - M resident evil uc-M tom clancy da- M the god father =Myou also cant include racing as kiddy bc they arent meant to be violent,, so with all that you got more t and m rated titles already then gc had in its first year , you must also add timesplitters 4 and second sight 2 as free radical waants these on spacifically the wii oh and mortal kombat, thats right you need to get out more . this thread is pointless .. as wii is still top selling console your arguments are wrong about non hardcorness, of the wii and when did graphics make a game ,, does ps1 ring any bells oh did i mention ps2 ya get out of town nintendo offered you graphics you still complain oh games like goldeneye perfectdark residentevil conker is to kiddy ,, now they change and what do i hear or read every day graphics suck ,, thats right you all are hard to please. go play your 360 or ps3 if you wanna waste the space i suggest a lock on this threadso wheres this kiddy image going,, ;, and up coming;ghost squad - i expect t or m house of the dead m most likley
I don't understand what makes the Wii a ''Kiddy'' system compared to other consoles, which offer the same type of games.
Most money comes from casuals. The hardcore crowd are just along for the ride. Everything everywhere is geared towards the mass audience.
casual gaming is the healthiest gaming; nintendo has won already.
[QUOTE=''Erebyssial'']There's been too many topics about the next gen imo, it's too far away and we should just enjoy this gen as it is and talk about issues closer to when it comes along.But on topic, I think that over time the casual gamers will slowly turn into hardcore gamers. Smaller children for example, who have started playing games with the Wii, will grow up as a big Nintendo fan like alot of us. It might end up being an on-going cycle which would make Nintendo even more superior in the long run. [/QUOTE]
I've loved nintendo ever since i played Super Mario Bros. 3, So you have a point.
Nintendo is reaching out to nongamers in a rather sparse manner, but the DS proved that's all it really takes, since nongamers don't pick up many titles, look at the games vs. nongames ratio on the DS, yet nongamers are apparently what's driving that handheld ahead. Nintendo is actually getting some casual market too, who are more attracted to the GTAs and Halos out there. The PC will and always will have a grasp on the core gamer, but if anything Nintendo is offering the core gamer incentive with the Wii with it's massive backlibrary, translated VC titles never-before-released in (given area), and some of the hardest damn quality games this generation - even if they aren't the ''big'' titles.
You people are confusing Casual and Hardcore gamers with kids, teens and adults. Ain't the same thing.The problem of the wii is the graphics. No, i'm no graphicwhore - on the contrary, I think the wii is my favorite console. But it's being left out of many great titles because it doesn't have high-end graphics... thats the reason why not having good graphics affects me, not by the visual itself, but because it decreases the ammounts of games we get. There are some producers that gives the wii a chance, but most of the game producers simply skip the wii. In the end, all the best titles we have are some ports and mostly the tiles Nintendo brings us, with some very little exceptions (REUC, MOHH2). Look at Xbox360/PS3, for example, they get games like Assassin Creed, or Oblivion. These 3rd parties could have easily been on the wii if it could support better graphics.I think Wii's casual gaming is evidence on the graphics. It makes the console cheap. I hope the next gen, they make a similar console, but competing with high-end grapchis. I think if Nintendo had better graphics, it would have been the UBER console.
In my opinion (sorry if someone else already wrote this) the Wii originally tried to appeal to a younger age group, but not many little kids even have a wii, so Nintendo left the hardcore gamers with the kiddie games. I'm glad that Nintendo is finally getting on the ball and releasing their games from big series (like Super Mario Galaxy and the upcoming Mario Kart Wii)
Interesting topic, but better off in System Wars. Thanks.